Stole Money Took payment but did not handover account

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    Chat history with Geralpha
    Saved on: 20/11/2019, 20:34
    Mon, 18/11/2019
    17:02 Saikot Hi.. are you selling castle SH40, 950M power?
    17:02 Saikot Price is tagged as 550USD.
    17:04 Geralpha hello if it's still for sale
    17:04 Saikot If?
    17:05 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:11 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    17:14 Saikot So you are chinese?
    17:16 Geralpha Yes, but I live in America
    17:16 Geralpha and you?
    17:17 Saikot I live in Malaysia
    17:18 Saikot 550USD price?
    17:18 Geralpha Yes, you can offer if you are interested
    17:19 Saikot I am interested. How did you bind the account? Have you used kingsgroup?
    17:24 Geralpha If it is linked, it comes with your email and the password will have the full acc
    17:25 Saikot Are you not the owner?
    17:26 Geralpha what do you mean?
    17:26 Saikot Why are you saying if?
    17:28 Geralpha what do you want to know? I do not understand what you mean
    17:28 Saikot Why if? Are you not certain?
    17:32 Geralpha I told you that I used kingsgroup to link me
    17:33 Saikot Ok. So 550 USD is fixed?
    17:34 Geralpha Do you want to give an offer?
    17:34 Saikot 500 USD is my offer?
    17:35 Geralpha Okay agree
    17:35 Saikot Ok fine. I need to verify account owner. I'll send In-Game message to check. Is it OK?
    17:37 Geralpha you can do it if you want
    17:38 Saikot Ok knock you tomorrow. At work now. Will check at night
    17:39 Geralpha tomorrow ah that time i can't
    17:39 Geralpha check right now write me a message I'll let you know it's me
    17:39 Saikot I can wait
    17:40 Geralpha I need to sell it
    17:42 Geralpha let's do it right now, send me a message for you to verify
    17:42 Saikot I m at work. Cannot open game
    17:43 Saikot 2 more hours
    17:44 Geralpha only 2 hours agreement
    17:44 Geralpha Can you get the money with paypal since it is the fastest and safest I know?
    17:45 Saikot Ok will check
    17:46 Geralpha right now?
    17:46 Saikot Nope
    17:49 Saikot What is your power right now?
    17:49 Saikot Will verify now
    17:52 Geralpha 1.007.000.000 billion
    17:54 Geralpha Okay?
    17:55 Saikot Wait. Need some time. Just took break. At least 15 mins. Need to create account there
    17:57 Geralpha ok will we do the business now?
    18:07 Saikot I sent message already
    18:08 Geralpha What is your name?
    18:08 Saikot Power is 916M+
    18:08 Saikot Lord#6163d8cbd27
    18:09 Geralpha neglect the account a little and I fell a little
    18:09 Saikot Shall I send again?
    18:10 Geralpha One seconds
    18:12 Geralpha [Photo]
    18:13 Saikot Any issue with your account?
    18:13 Saikot You invested a lot
    18:13 Geralpha can you already be sure?
    18:14 Geralpha I just don't have time to play anymore and I need the money for other things
    18:14 Saikot I know some castles are restricted to buy items. Any restriction?
    18:15 Geralpha no nothing to see i'm totally available
    18:15 Saikot Ok will so business. But not today. Day after tomorrow. I have to top up paypal
    18:16 Geralpha what a day?
    18:16 Saikot On 20th
    18:17 Saikot Ok?
    18:17 Geralpha Can you get $300 right now? you can send the rest when you receive it
    18:17 Geralpha Yes?
    18:18 Saikot I have to go to bank to do this. Bank closed already. We cannot top up PayPal directly. Restriction is here
    18:19 Saikot Bank takes one business day. That's why told you day after tomorrow
    18:19 Geralpha ok I'll wait for 20 hours
    18:20 Saikot 20 hours? It's 6:19pm here.
    18:20 Saikot Not sure by tomorrow it can be updated. But if it is, then knock you
    18:21 Geralpha ok do you want me to wait until what day and what time?
    18:21 Saikot 20th nov until 6pm Malaysia time
    18:22 Geralpha ok no more time
    18:22 Saikot What is your local time now?
    18:24 Geralpha 7:24 am
    18:25 Saikot What guarantee you are giving that you will not recover this account later?
    18:25 Geralpha I will give you the full acc, I will not be able to enter
    18:26 Geralpha on the 20th at this time
    18:26 Saikot Ok
    18:26 Geralpha Okay
    Tue, 19/11/2019
    15:33 Saikot Actually you are from Venezuela... right?
    15:38 Saikot You better discard me. I'll not do business. Sorry
    18:01 Geralpha what do you mean? I was only for a few days in Venezuela, family matters now I am in the United States in Florida Miami, I do not understand why you tell me that
    18:02 Saikot Forget it. I am not getting confidence
    18:02 Geralpha oh it's not my fault
    18:03 Geralpha How do you want to do this?
    18:04 Saikot I need to think for a while.
    18:04 Saikot But I heard from King that, that castle was not for sale
    18:05 Geralpha What have you listened? nobody can say anything about my castle
    18:06 Geralpha I sell it whenever I want
    18:08 Saikot What is account name?
    18:10 Geralpha my account name is priest
    18:10 Saikot Chinese language?
    18:11 Geralpha no, the language is in English
    18:20 Saikot や₹۱ㅌىㅜ
    18:20 Saikot What is your cords?
    18:23 Geralpha Do you want a video to watch even better?
    18:24 Geralpha [Video]
    18:25 Saikot Might be better
    18:26 Geralpha Ok sure
    18:26 Geralpha Do you already have the money in your hands?
    18:30 Saikot Deposited at bank. Haven't updated yet
    18:31 Geralpha ok when will you get it
    18:34 Saikot Tomorrow
    18:34 Saikot When did you take this video?
    18:36 Geralpha 2 days ago why?
    18:37 Saikot Why are you selling so cheap?
    18:39 Geralpha It's just what I think my account can be worth. I am an honest man I don't like to abuse anyone
    18:41 Saikot Frankly speaking it made me confused. This account worths more than 3k. I have been playing for 3 years in this game
    18:42 Saikot I built a SH40 from scratch. I have idea on spending
    18:43 Geralpha I understand you but I already feel that it is not so much worth playing and I waste too much time, and I need to sell it fast because I need the money for other things as I told you, I do not like to abuse anyone
    18:44 Saikot Ok I'll knock you later
    18:45 Geralpha ok tomorrow I contact you to continue, okay?
    18:51 Saikot Ok
    19:20 Saikot My PayPal is business account. Definitely it will deduct transaction fees. Do you have idea how much the charge would be?
    19:22 Geralpha I have no idea what the charge would be, but you can see on the paypal calculator
    19:25 Saikot Ok
    Wed, 20/11/2019
    11:02 Saikot Sorry Priest. I decided to discontinue this game. Trying to sell my current SH also. Kindly discard me. Sorry for wasting your time
    11:03 Geralpha what do you mean? we will not do any business?
    11:05 Saikot Nope. I decided to stop this game. Will not play anymore. I'll wait for next 7 days and by this time, if my current SH is not sold, then I'll dismantle everything and give away
    11:06 Geralpha Oh I feel what happened to you, I just need to sell my account
    11:16 Saikot Sorry bro
    11:16 Geralpha And if you lower the price a little, would you be interested?
    11:57 Geralpha 400$?
    11:58 Saikot Nope bro.. I want to get rid . Wife is creating huge noise
    11:59 Geralpha you can sell it later if you wish, I seriously don't have any time to play so I want to sell it
    12:02 Saikot How long you have been trying to sell? I am also struggling to sell mine. I posted two days before and still no one shows interest though 18 people saw already
    12:02 Saikot 30 views now
    12:03 Geralpha I only have one week
    12:04 Saikot I suggest you should wait one more week
    12:05 Saikot [Photo]
    12:05 Geralpha just help me sell it buy it for me please I need to sell it as soon as possible is a very good price
    12:05 Saikot This one is also yours.. right?
    12:08 Geralpha Of course bro
    12:08 Saikot Your location is Romania
    12:09 Geralpha I have told you, I have been in several countries
    12:10 Saikot Ok I'll help you to sell
    12:11 Geralpha You can buy it at the last price I gave you and you can publish it again a little higher if you wish I can give you the acc now
    12:12 Saikot Wife is monitoring that expense. Cannot do any sorts of transaction now. Really sorry. After 4/5 days, may be the situation gets calm
    12:14 Geralpha and you can make a small one to get the acc now and continue with the business only $100 or what you can, just to verify that if you buy, and be able to give you the start of the section
    12:17 Saikot Give me sometime. I'll borrow 100$. But rest 400$ payment will be on 7 Dec my salary day. In the meantime if my SH is sold, I'll pay you whatever payment I receive. Also if I can sell your account, I'll close full deal
    12:17 Saikot Ok?
    12:19 Geralpha ok ok, let's do it that way, when can you get $100?
    12:19 Saikot Evening at my time. 6 or 7 am morning at your time
    12:24 Saikot Ok?
    12:25 Geralpha ok 7am my time?
    12:25 Saikot Yes should be
    12:26 Geralpha Will I leave my paypal account for you to do and let me know ok?
    12:27 Saikot So the deal is: I'll give you 100$ first. You will give me account. I'll pay you rest 400$ on 7 Dec. In the mean time, if I get more money, I'll transfer you gradually.
    12:27 Saikot Yes
    12:28 Saikot By the by, will you trust me for giving original email address along with kingsgroup password and email password?
    12:28 Saikot Once I send you 100$
    12:28 Geralpha if I could get a little more $ 150, it would be better if I could wait the necessary time
    12:28 Saikot I'll try but cannot guarantee
    12:29 Geralpha yes I can give you the acc but you have to be an honest person agree
    12:29 Saikot Very hard to get money from people even if it is very less
    12:29 Saikot I am honest. You can rely on me
    12:30 Saikot Do you only play koa or other game also?
    12:30 Geralpha ok I like doing business with people like that, if you can get $ 150 I would like to, with that I can wait
    12:31 Geralpha I play other games but now I only sell my koA account
    12:31 Saikot What other game account you have?
    12:33 Geralpha I also play fornite and destiny 2
    12:35 Saikot Just wondering.. what happened to you actually? I meant why do you need money badly. Sorry asking for personal information. Just out of curious
    12:36 Geralpha I need to raise money to make some trips, for now I have problems with my family and I have to travel at all times
    12:37 Saikot What do you do for living? I am an IT engineer
    12:39 Geralpha Now I study mechanics and work in my father-in-law's workshop, it's a good way to distract the mind
    12:39 Saikot How do I call you? My name is Saikot
    12:42 Geralpha my name is Stoican
    16:21 Saikot Message me when comes online
    18:50 Geralpha Hey..
    18:50 Saikot Yup
    18:51 Saikot Be ready. I'll knock after 30 mins.
    18:51 Saikot Ok?
    18:51 Geralpha Ok, it's fine
    18:51 Saikot I could manage 100$ only
    18:52 Geralpha 150$?
    18:52 Saikot Could not. Tried. Money comes very hard
    18:53 Saikot With 100$, people can buy full month groceries here.
    18:53 Geralpha ok what you can then
    18:53 Saikot That 100$ only
    18:57 Geralpha Ok
    18:58 Saikot In a middle of activity. Let me finish it
    19:01 Geralpha [email protected]
    19:02 Geralpha that's the paypal
    19:05 Saikot Ok
    19:16 Geralpha How long will it be ready?
    19:16 Saikot 15 to 20 mins. In a official activity. Your KOA account ready?
    19:17 Geralpha if it's ready
    19:28 Saikot [Photo]
    19:28 Saikot Done
    19:29 Geralpha ok I just need you to confirm the money
    19:29 Saikot Really it is asked?
    19:32 Geralpha the money is in temporary hold, you have to release the money so that it appears available
    19:32 Saikot How to do that?
    19:34 Saikot I think you have to request. Then an email comes to me to release
    19:35 Saikot Let me check through web version. Doing it through mobile
    19:36 Saikot Can you send screenshots?
    19:37 Geralpha [Photo]
    19:38 Saikot Ok wait for a while
    19:38 Saikot I'll adjust 4$ on next payment
    19:40 Geralpha ok and as we will do, so that the money is released
    19:42 Saikot I released already
    19:43 Saikot I confirmed the shipping
    19:44 Saikot [Photo]
    19:46 Saikot Confirmed?
    19:47 Geralpha They still don't arrive, tell me if you will complete the $ 150
    19:48 Saikot I told you I could only manage 100$.
    19:48 Saikot Money must be arrived. Check again
    19:48 Geralpha I asked you $ 150 in advance, since that is what I need, to be able to wait with that money until 7
    19:50 Saikot But I told you 100$ I could manage before sending. Why are you deviating now?
    19:53 Geralpha just because I feel that there is very little money just $ 100 so I ask 150 to be sure, or if you can complete $ 125 it is a good option
    19:55 Saikot Not a good option now. I trusted you. Told you what I could manage. Now you are deviating. This is not good sign. Are you not trusting me?
    19:56 Geralpha If I trust you, but therefore I need only 125 to pay a debt, the rest I can wait I promise
    19:56 Saikot 25$ more you are asking now?
    19:57 Geralpha If I need to reach $125 full
    19:57 Geralpha 96+29=125
    19:58 Saikot Ok. I'll quit smoking until rest days
    19:58 Saikot Wait
    19:58 Geralpha Okay
    19:59 Saikot You better send mail to all that I am taking over the account
    19:59 Geralpha what do you mean?
    20:01 Saikot I am taking over the account. So they need to know the new iwner
    20:01 Saikot *owner
    20:02 Geralpha if I understand you but you have to send the agreed money
    20:04 Saikot [Photo]
    20:04 Saikot Done
    20:07 Saikot You said you will give me account after sending 100$. Rest on 7 Dec. I already fulfill your requirements.
    20:10 Saikot Done?
    20:12 Geralpha ok let's wait on day 7
    20:12 Saikot So access to acount now?
    20:13 Geralpha I can give you the acc but with half the payment
    20:14 Saikot What does it mean?
    20:14 Saikot What is this then?
    20:17 Geralpha but I can't take a chance, if you can't, I can give you your money back, I don't want problems
    20:17 Saikot Ok give back my money. I don't want problem also
    20:17 Saikot I trusted you but you cannot
    20:19 Geralpha If I can trust you, but I can't take a chance, I'll give you the opportunity to pay me next month, if you understand me, it's only in you if you want to continue
    20:19 Saikot I helped you and this is what you are doing now.
    20:20 Saikot You are abusing people now
    20:20 Saikot Then why did you agree before?
    20:20 Saikot If you cannot take chance you could wait til Dec 7.
    20:21 Geralpha I agreed that I thought you would pay $ 200
    20:21 Saikot Please keep your words as you promised
    20:21 Saikot Where was that communication?
    20:22 Geralpha I just try not to be scammed for only 130$ friend
    20:22 Saikot Ok let's close business. You just pay back my money now
    20:23 Geralpha I can pay you right now I don't want problems, but it's only because of you, you don't want to continue paying
    20:24 Saikot Completely wrong statement. Just pay my money back now
    20:24 Geralpha what do you mean?
    20:24 Saikot Just pay my money back now. No need to do business
    20:28 Saikot Hello
    20:29 Geralpha please continue, I just need to sell
    20:29 Saikot I want my money back now.
    20:30 Saikot Since you are not trusting me, so I don't want to do business with you
    20:30 Saikot Just pay my money back now
    20:32 Saikot I'll wait 30 mins more. Else I'll report for fraud against you

     
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