Exploiting HogRiderrrr / HypeProvider - Scam From Verified User For Sale Youtube Game Channel

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    1. Date Dispute Happened
    Feb22;2018


    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    i am Buyer


    3. Total Transaction Value
    $100 USD


    4. Other Parties Username
    HogRiderrrr

    *Channel sales link in fourm youtube:
    https://www.playerup.com/threads/gaming-channel-12k-subs-1-2m-views.3419146/


    *profile user in fourm youtube:
    https://www.playerup.com/members/hogriderrrr.107719/


    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    PayPal

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    [email protected]

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    [email protected]

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    [email protected]

    9.my nam and gmail Address:
    sabereh rezaei
    [email protected]



    10. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below


    *Screen shot of $ 100 payment by PayPal
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    Our messages in gmail:

    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    hi....i want buy your channel

    please send me your channel address


    thanks





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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Channel name: Zuiy






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Thank you ... Soon I will buy your channel through this www.playerup.com link from site:

     Selling -   GAMING CHANNEL [12k+ SUBS, 1.2M+ VIEWS] | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Patrik Kamas <[email protected]> wrote:
    Channel name: Zuiy








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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Sorry, but the channel is already reserved. Only for $80 but he will pay directly.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    I suggest you for $100 pay directly -from paypal and visa card
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Yes, but no one will pay that much.
    PlayerUp is slow and the PayPal takes 20% as fee, that's wht I need direct payment.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    What do you think of my suggestion? It's better for you
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    You are offering $100 through direct payment?






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Which method do I pay $100?
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    direct payment ?
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    My current offer is $80 directly through PayPal.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Which country is your bank account?
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    My PayPal is USA based.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    your current offer is $80 directly through PayPal.
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    my current offer is $100 directly through PayPal.[​IMG]
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Oh, that sounds nice!
    When you will be available to pay though?






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    It was very good....I am from Turkey. I will pay you up to 20 hours later.
    I apologize. For this, how can I trust that you will give me the YouTube channel after paying he amount?

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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    I,m apologize. For this, how can I trust that you will give me the YouTube channel after paying the amount?
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    ????????????????
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Where did you go dear friend? I want buy your channel
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Sorry, my connection is really bad.
    As you can see, I am Verified and I have completed several transactions so there's no reason for me to scam.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    you're welcomeو-Your answer was great and convincing. Actually, thanks

    Send me your PayPal information
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    ???????????
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Hello, my PayPal email is [email protected]
    Make sure to send in USD currency!
    Thanks for your quick response.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Yes, sure ... Max. 20 hours will be paid to the 100 US dollar and I will announce the result here.
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Okay, I may not be online at that time but I will be online a couple minutes after.
    Thanks.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Thankful. I may be able to transfer my money sooner. Between 1 hour and 20 hours
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
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    Dear friend, 100 USD was paid to your PayPal card now[​IMG]
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    Attachments area





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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Hello, thank you.
    Can you provide me with your Google account address?
    I will move the channel there so I don't need to give you my whole account.
    The process takes 24hours because of security reasons. You can search it up on Google, if you want.






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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    I created new Google account and I will transfer it there. I need to wait 24hrs from now to make it new owner.
    Thanks for transaction!
    I will provide you with the new Google account after it's the owner of channel.






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Thank you very much. That's right
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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    I forgot to mention this process before as I wasn't expecting you to pay so quickly.






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    Patrik Kamas
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    So tommorow at this time I'll send you the account's login information.
    Thank you very much!
    Wasn't expecting so smooth and fast transaction!






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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 22 (3 days ago)
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    Thank you very much ... I'm waiting for you.
    I tried to deposit your money as soon as possible.[​IMG]

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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    Feb 23 (2 days ago)
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    Hi Patrik Kamas

    Can you give me the information on YouTube channel today?

    thanks
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    Patrik Kamas
    Hello, just three more hours until it's transferred to the new Google account...
    Feb 23 (2 days ago)
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    sabereh rezaei
    Thank you dear friend
    Feb 23 (2 days ago)
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
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    ?[​IMG]
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    12:45 PM (11 hours ago)
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    Hello,when do you can give me YouTube channel ?

    Thanks for fast answer
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    9:14 PM (3 hours ago)
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    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    9:14 PM (3 hours ago)
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    ?????
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    sabereh rezaei <[email protected]>
    9:34 PM (2 hours ago)
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    please answer my email[​IMG]
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    Unfortunately, he does not answer me:sob:
     
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    @tiam230 can you provide screenshots of your emails for much clearer evidence?
     
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    Yes of course
     
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    My complaint was sent to PayPal and PayPal has given him the opportunity to 1 March 2018 .if I do not deliver the channel, I will complete Paypal's complaint form.
     
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    My complaint was sent to PayPal and PayPal has given him the opportunity to 1 March 2018 .if I do not deliver the channel, I will complete Paypal's complaint form.
     
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    @HogRiderrrr you have until March 1, 2018 to respond here and address this dispute against you.
     
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    @HogRiderrrr last day to address this dispute or your account will get suspended.
     
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    I am only trading through Middleman. All other sales are just finding buyers for others and I am providing their contact information.
     
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    Unfortunately, you are lying. You have introduced your own Gmail on your game channel sales page. This Gmail ([email protected]) is yours and I contacted this Gmail and paid $ 100 from paypal.All of the screenshots shown above indicate you are the owner of the gmail.
    On your channel sales page, you've introduced your Gmail to the buyer:
     Selling -   Gaming Channel [12K+ Subs, 1.2M+ Views] | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.


    Can you reject the screenshot below? Everything accurately shows that you own this Gmail.

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    You are responsible for publishing this Gmail([email protected]). And all the consequences will come back to you
     
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    The evidence @tiam230 provided shows your email and your conversation with them.

    @tiam230 i think its time to refund your money now, however for the meantime since @HogRiderrrr replied i will give him another 24hrs to counter all your evidence with his own evidence.
     
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    Yes, I fill out Paypal's Complaint Form today and follow up will continue to get my money.
     
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    It's your responsibility to not use Middleman. I got paid to publish that thread, that's where my work ended.
    There's a Middleman option, not my fault you didn't use it.
    Also, I didn't event know if it's real as you can easily edit photos into anything.
     
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