Stole Money Scammed for 60,000k crownsMiddleman Seller Guide

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  1. James Raynor

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    1. Date Dispute Happened
    March 19th, 2017

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    $60 usd (60,000 crowns)

    4. Other Parties Username
    Playerup username: Unknownhero

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    Paypal

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    N/A

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
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    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    Skype: cockosaurex

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below

    *(James Raynor - ME) / (Johnny Kraft - cockosaurex)*


    [3/18/17, 10:01:14 PM] James Raynor: Wizard101 account for sale?
    [3/18/17, 10:13:33 PM] Johnny Kraft: Life account?
    [3/18/17, 10:13:44 PM] James Raynor: Yes
    [3/18/17, 10:13:47 PM] James Raynor: What level is it?
    [3/18/17, 10:13:56 PM] Johnny Kraft: 110
    [3/18/17, 10:14:08 PM] James Raynor: How much?
    [3/18/17, 10:15:26 PM] Johnny Kraft: 55
    [3/18/17, 10:15:34 PM] James Raynor: Could we use a middle man?
    [3/18/17, 10:15:48 PM] Johnny Kraft: Who do you have in mind
    [3/18/17, 10:16:25 PM] James Raynor: Hang on
    [3/18/17, 10:16:36 PM] James Raynor: Can you send me proof that you own the account
    [3/18/17, 10:16:49 PM] Johnny Kraft: Yeah
    [3/18/17, 10:17:15 PM] Johnny Kraft: You'll have to wait not home
    [3/18/17, 10:17:29 PM] James Raynor: How long would that be?
    [3/18/17, 10:17:43 PM] Johnny Kraft: Late tonight or tomorrow morning
    [3/18/17, 10:17:56 PM] James Raynor: What time would it be tonight?
    [3/18/17, 10:18:03 PM] James Raynor: are you on eastern time first of all
    [3/18/17, 10:18:10 PM] Johnny Kraft: Well it's 9 now. So probably 12ish
    [3/18/17, 10:18:15 PM] Johnny Kraft: Central
    [3/18/17, 10:18:23 PM] James Raynor: Ah okay so 3 hours?
    [3/18/17, 10:18:30 PM] Johnny Kraft: Correct
    [3/18/17, 10:18:43 PM] James Raynor: Okay well can you message me then?
    [3/18/17, 10:18:49 PM] Johnny Kraft: Can do
    [3/18/17, 10:19:00 PM] James Raynor: Thank you
    [3/18/17, 11:55:00 PM] Johnny Kraft: Home now
    [3/18/17, 11:55:10 PM] James Raynor: Great, could you send screenshots?
    [3/18/17, 11:56:09 PM] Johnny Kraft: yep
    [3/18/17, 11:56:15 PM] James Raynor: Sweet thanks
    [3/18/17, 11:56:33 PM] Johnny Kraft: Rip nvm lol
    [3/18/17, 11:56:36 PM] James Raynor: ?
    [3/18/17, 11:56:40 PM] Johnny Kraft: someone bought it from the pay now link
    [3/18/17, 11:56:48 PM] James Raynor: Hahah okay thanks for your time
    [3/18/17, 11:56:50 PM] Johnny Kraft: Life acc is gone so only ice
    [3/18/17, 11:57:01 PM] James Raynor: what level is the ice?
    [3/18/17, 11:57:07 PM] Johnny Kraft: 117
    [3/18/17, 11:57:20 PM] Johnny Kraft: +all areas perma unlocked
    [3/18/17, 11:57:44 PM] James Raynor: Does it have any mounts?
    [3/18/17, 11:57:53 PM] Johnny Kraft: Like 25+
    [3/18/17, 11:58:08 PM] James Raynor: Can we meet up in game
    [3/18/17, 11:58:14 PM] Johnny Kraft: Sure thing
    [3/18/17, 11:58:50 PM] James Raynor: Okay just let me know where and what realm
    [3/19/17, 12:03:14 AM] James Raynor: How does the buy now work?
    [3/19/17, 12:03:18 AM] James Raynor: Is it automated?
    [3/19/17, 12:03:31 AM] Johnny Kraft: Alright commons satyr
    [3/19/17, 12:03:34 AM] Johnny Kraft: yes automated
    [3/19/17, 12:03:38 AM] Johnny Kraft: they pay I have to send info over
    [3/19/17, 12:03:53 AM] James Raynor: Is the info automatically sent?
    [3/19/17, 12:04:17 AM] James Raynor: And where are you
    [3/19/17, 12:04:38 AM] Johnny Kraft: No I send it after payment
    [3/19/17, 12:04:42 AM] James Raynor: ah
    [3/19/17, 12:04:44 AM] James Raynor: Okay
    [3/19/17, 12:04:49 AM] Johnny Kraft: payment is confirmed etc takes a few hours
    [3/19/17, 12:04:56 AM] Johnny Kraft: so someone bought it a while ago
    [3/19/17, 12:05:01 AM] James Raynor: Oh
    [3/19/17, 12:05:11 AM] James Raynor: How long would it take for me to get my hand on the ice account
    [3/19/17, 12:05:23 AM] James Raynor: hands
    [3/19/17, 12:06:30 AM] Johnny Kraft: If you pay me directly right after payment confirmed middleman usually takes 8-48 hours
    [3/19/17, 12:06:42 AM] James Raynor: 8 hours?
    [3/19/17, 12:06:47 AM] James Raynor: Damn that takes awhile
    [3/19/17, 12:06:54 AM] James Raynor: I would like to be able to play tonight on the account
    [3/19/17, 12:09:35 AM] James Raynor: Is that possible?
    [3/19/17, 12:09:41 AM] James Raynor: If I sent you the money directly?
    [3/19/17, 12:10:36 AM] Johnny Kraft: Yeah that's possible
    [3/19/17, 12:10:39 AM] Johnny Kraft: Are you here?
    [3/19/17, 12:10:45 AM] James Raynor: Yes, i'm here
    [3/19/17, 12:10:50 AM] James Raynor: i’m very interested.
    [3/19/17, 12:10:50 AM] Johnny Kraft: I'm fred
    [3/19/17, 12:10:57 AM] James Raynor: I’m James
    [3/19/17, 12:11:57 AM] James Raynor: Okay yes, I would like to buy the account.
    [3/19/17, 12:12:19 AM] Johnny Kraft: I also have a death if you'd like to meet in commons
    [3/19/17, 12:12:30 AM] James Raynor: Okay
    [3/19/17, 12:12:39 AM] Johnny Kraft: same realm
    [3/19/17, 12:12:48 AM] James Raynor: Okay
    [3/19/17, 12:12:49 AM] Johnny Kraft: valkoor is name
    [3/19/17, 12:13:51 AM] Johnny Kraft: have death flying horse as well
    [3/19/17, 12:14:19 AM] James Raynor: Is it open chat?
    [3/19/17, 12:14:24 AM] James Raynor: it’s not a big deal if not
    [3/19/17, 12:14:25 AM] James Raynor: just wondering
    [3/19/17, 12:14:30 AM] Johnny Kraft: Yes
    [3/19/17, 12:14:33 AM] James Raynor: sweet
    [3/19/17, 12:14:40 AM] James Raynor: But yes, I would like to buy the account
    [3/19/17, 12:15:00 AM] James Raynor: 55?
    [3/19/17, 12:15:08 AM] Johnny Kraft: I was thinking a little more
    [3/19/17, 12:15:14 AM] Johnny Kraft: How will you be paying?
    [3/19/17, 12:15:19 AM] James Raynor: Paypal good?
    [3/19/17, 12:15:30 AM] Johnny Kraft: Do you have bitcoin?
    [3/19/17, 12:15:39 AM] James Raynor: No, sorry
    [3/19/17, 12:15:43 AM] James Raynor: I can send as a friend
    [3/19/17, 12:15:48 AM] James Raynor: On PayPal so I take the fee
    [3/19/17, 12:15:51 AM] Johnny Kraft: Create an account on coinbase
    [3/19/17, 12:16:06 AM] James Raynor: Okay
    [3/19/17, 12:16:23 AM] Johnny Kraft: hows 75?
    [3/19/17, 12:16:29 AM] James Raynor: 70?
    [3/19/17, 12:16:34 AM] Johnny Kraft: eh
    [3/19/17, 12:16:37 AM] James Raynor: 75 is fair
    [3/19/17, 12:16:40 AM] Johnny Kraft: Sweet
    [3/19/17, 12:16:42 AM] James Raynor: I can do 75
    [3/19/17, 12:16:47 AM] Johnny Kraft: Sounds good
    [3/19/17, 12:18:02 AM] James Raynor: Registering atm
    [3/19/17, 12:19:13 AM] Johnny Kraft: Alright let me know
    [3/19/17, 12:20:51 AM] Johnny Kraft: Also has hydra
    [3/19/17, 12:20:55 AM] James Raynor: Nice
    [3/19/17, 12:21:06 AM] Johnny Kraft: cloud strider and night runner
    [3/19/17, 12:23:30 AM] James Raynor: Does it have to be through bitcoin?
    [3/19/17, 12:23:48 AM] Johnny Kraft: Easier for me since I don't use paypal
    [3/19/17, 12:24:11 AM] Johnny Kraft: unless you want to do giftcards
    [3/19/17, 12:24:16 AM] James Raynor: I can’t set it up atm, could you possibly just setup a paypal account
    [3/19/17, 12:24:22 AM] James Raynor: What giftcards
    [3/19/17, 12:24:46 AM] James Raynor: I can do gift cards or transfer money through paypal
    [3/19/17, 12:25:25 AM] James Raynor: What type of gift cards are you looking for?
    [3/19/17, 12:26:57 AM] Johnny Kraft: PSN
    [3/19/17, 12:27:32 AM] James Raynor: 75 psn?
    [3/19/17, 12:27:39 AM] Johnny Kraft: wait I owe my friend crowns. if you wanna do a 60k gift certificate so I can pay him back
    [3/19/17, 12:27:54 AM] James Raynor: Sure, I can do that
    [3/19/17, 12:28:02 AM] Johnny Kraft: the 60k will work that way I can pay him and save you 15
    [3/19/17, 12:28:11 AM] James Raynor: Sounds good to me
    [3/19/17, 12:29:04 AM] Johnny Kraft: Cool cool makes things easier
    [3/19/17, 12:29:39 AM] James Raynor: How do I know you aren’t going to take the money and run?
    [3/19/17, 12:29:46 AM] Johnny Kraft: I have vouches
    [3/19/17, 12:29:52 AM] Johnny Kraft: Previous accounts sold
    [3/19/17, 12:30:33 AM] Johnny Kraft:

    Signup To View Link


    [3/19/17, 12:31:06 AM] James Raynor: Can I message that person really quick
    [3/19/17, 12:31:21 AM] Johnny Kraft: Theyre not online but sure go ahead
    [3/19/17, 12:31:29 AM] Johnny Kraft: well it says away
    [3/19/17, 12:31:52 AM] James Raynor: what’s their name
    [3/19/17, 12:33:45 AM] Johnny Kraft: Frank Cuevas
    [3/19/17, 12:34:12 AM] Johnny Kraft: Thats their name
    [3/19/17, 12:35:41 AM] Johnny Kraft: Did you find them?
    [3/19/17, 12:35:45 AM] James Raynor: Okay we can do it
    [3/19/17, 12:35:52 AM] James Raynor: I feel like you’re trust worthy
    [3/19/17, 12:36:04 AM] James Raynor: So lets do the deal
    [3/19/17, 12:36:06 AM] Johnny Kraft: Alright cool
    [3/19/17, 12:37:09 AM] James Raynor: Who shall I send it too
    [3/19/17, 12:37:47 AM] James Raynor: To who and from and the message?
    [3/19/17, 12:38:09 AM] Johnny Kraft: Oh idk his email
    [3/19/17, 12:38:13 AM] Johnny Kraft: Ill just pm him the code
    [3/19/17, 12:38:18 AM] James Raynor: Perfect
    [3/19/17, 12:38:22 AM] James Raynor: Whats your email
    [3/19/17, 12:38:37 AM] James Raynor: Make sure you type it correctly
    [3/19/17, 12:40:17 AM] Johnny Kraft: I think you can just send it to yourself
    [3/19/17, 12:40:24 AM] James Raynor: Oh okay
    [3/19/17, 12:42:20 AM] James Raynor: Okay are you ready
    [3/19/17, 12:42:36 AM] Johnny Kraft: Yeah my buddy just got on
    [3/19/17, 12:42:43 AM] James Raynor: Can we get in a call
    [3/19/17, 12:42:54 AM] James Raynor: while we do this
    [3/19/17, 12:42:56 AM] Johnny Kraft: I have no mic lol
    [3/19/17, 12:43:02 AM] James Raynor: okay
    [3/19/17, 12:43:08 AM] Johnny Kraft: Sorry
    [3/19/17, 12:43:13 AM] James Raynor: It’s fine,
    [3/19/17, 12:43:44 AM] James Raynor: well can you put the master password, and the username and password into a text file and upload after I send the code
    [3/19/17, 12:43:58 AM] James Raynor: It’s a picture like from wizard101
    [3/19/17, 12:43:58 AM] Johnny Kraft: Yeah let me do that
    [3/19/17, 12:44:00 AM] James Raynor: Okay
    [3/19/17, 12:46:14 AM] James Raynor: Tell me when you’re prepared
    [3/19/17, 12:46:26 AM] Johnny Kraft: I'm good
    [3/19/17, 12:46:42 AM] James Raynor: Okay:
    [3/19/17, 12:46:44 AM] James Raynor: Image
    [3/19/17, 12:47:12 AM] James Raynor: You can have him redeem it first if you would like
    [3/19/17, 12:47:24 AM] Johnny Kraft: There's no code there lol
    [3/19/17, 12:47:32 AM] James Raynor: You’re right
    [3/19/17, 12:47:33 AM] James Raynor: love you
    [3/19/17, 12:47:34 AM] James Raynor: Hold on
    [3/19/17, 12:47:37 AM] James Raynor:

    Signup To View Link


    [3/19/17, 12:47:46 AM] James Raynor: That have it
    [3/19/17, 12:47:47 AM] James Raynor: ?
    [3/19/17, 12:47:53 AM] Johnny Kraft: can't access that page
    [3/19/17, 12:48:05 AM] James Raynor: Let me just take a screen shot then
    [3/19/17, 12:48:24 AM] Johnny Kraft: Ok lol
    [3/19/17, 12:48:38 AM] James Raynor: Image
    [3/19/17, 12:48:49 AM] James Raynor: you can check it first, I trust you
    [3/19/17, 12:49:24 AM] Johnny Kraft: Alright ill have my friend see if it works
    [3/19/17, 12:49:29 AM] James Raynor: okay
    [3/19/17, 12:49:42 AM] Johnny Kraft: redeemed already?
    [3/19/17, 12:49:45 AM] James Raynor: no
    [3/19/17, 12:49:47 AM] Johnny Kraft: Are you trying to scam me?
    [3/19/17, 12:50:12 AM] James Raynor: You just redeem it
    [3/19/17, 12:50:18 AM] James Raynor: I didn’t redeem it
    [3/19/17, 12:50:19 AM] Johnny Kraft: Sent a blank page then an already redeemed code?
    [3/19/17, 12:50:32 AM] James Raynor: it’s literally a fresh code
    [3/19/17, 12:50:38 AM] James Raynor: Show me your accounts crowns
    [3/19/17, 12:50:42 AM] James Raynor: don’t try and scam
    [3/19/17, 12:50:44 AM] James Raynor: please
    [3/19/17, 12:50:58 AM] James Raynor: You and I both know that I sent you a valid code
    [3/19/17, 12:51:26 AM] Johnny Kraft: Ill log in there, my friend is saying that code doesn't work
    [3/19/17, 12:51:36 AM] James Raynor: It’s a fresh code
    [3/19/17, 12:51:50 AM] Johnny Kraft: Then did you buy and redeem? It should've worked
    [3/19/17, 12:52:01 AM] James Raynor: Would you like to see my accounts crowns?
    [3/19/17, 12:52:17 AM] James Raynor: Cmon don’t be that guy
    [3/19/17, 12:52:21 AM] James Raynor: Fr don’t try and scam
    [3/19/17, 12:52:30 AM] James Raynor: You and I both know you have the account info.
    [3/19/17, 12:52:33 AM] Johnny Kraft: Don't tell me not to be that guy when youre literally being that guy
    [3/19/17, 12:53:00 AM] James Raynor: Okay I’ll contact ki and see who redeemed it
    [3/19/17, 12:53:01 AM] James Raynor: hold up
    [3/19/17, 12:53:57 AM] Johnny Kraft: Sounds good
    [3/19/17, 12:54:31 AM] Johnny Kraft: SIKENIGGA.jpg
    [3/19/17, 12:54:41 AM] James Raynor: So you going to send the account?
    [3/19/17, 12:54:52 AM] Johnny Kraft: SIKENIGGA.jpg
    [3/19/17, 12:54:58 AM] James Raynor: Well?
    [3/19/17, 12:55:31 AM] James Raynor: Are you going to send the account?


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